In case you are unaware, Water4Gas claims that by following their instructions and using simple, easy to find items, you can raise your gas mileage by 20% to 50% or more. So let’s review Water4Gas.
Is Water4Gas a scam? Short response is no. In my opinion a scam is when someone takes your money with no intention of giving you what was promised. Water4Gas gives you exactly what they promise. The problem is that many people make wrong assumptions about what they are getting. Who’s fault is that?
Now Here Is A Scam!
I’m sure you have heard that the oil companies are making tens of BILLION$ in profits every quarter. That’s EVERY THREE MONTHS. That’s insane.
Now I’m too stinkin’ lazy to look this up, but based on what I’ve heard, I’m going to make an assumption (shame on me). Aren’t most of the oil fields owned by the OPEC governments? When they raise their prices, the oil companies pay more. Can someone explain to me how their profits go UP when that happens? Shouldn’t that be the other way around? That doesn’t make sense.
Legally speaking, the oil companies are not a monopoly. There is more than just one. But we all know that they are in cahoots with each other. As one goes, so go the others. What are our options? Stop buying gas and get a bike? Like that’s going to happen.
Besides, oil is more than just gasoline. There are thousands of products made from crude oil. They have us over a barrel and they know it.
Learn From History
While the Water4Gas trademark is relatively new, the technology isn’t. It’s been around for 100 years or more. So why aren’t we using it? Why are we still being bled by the oil companies?
Do you think the oil companies don’t know about this technology? You can bet your house they do. But they don’t want you to know. Their profits might drop into the millions, instead of billions. How will they feed their families?
Others have tried to go public with this knowledge, but they made too much noise. Sadly, the technology and sometimes even the inventor got buried somewhere. As long as we keep Water4Gas small, we pose no threat to them. We can make a difference, though, one person at a time.
Is Water4Gas A Scam?
They hand over what they promise, so I’d say no. But does Water4Gas really work? The oil companies and even our own government wouldn’t be trying so hard to keep it secret if it didn’t. Of course every car is different, but you should see a significant increase in mileage. And that will save you money.
If you scan the blogs and forums, you will see opinions ranging from “This is the greatest invention since the wheel” to “This is the biggest scam since the serpent convinced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit”.
This much is certain. Most of those posts are made by people who have never tried it, especially the naysayers. They just like to draw attention to themselves.
I feel that if I can get a 20% to 50% increase in mileage, reduce our dependency on foreign oil, and save money at the same time, I’d be a fool not to try it. What the heck, it’s guaranteed, so what do I have to lose?
Is This a Water4Gas Scam?
I don’t expect you to believe everything I say. Download Water4Gas instructions and check it out yourself.
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Now I’m too stinkin’ lazy to look this up, but based on what I’ve heard, I’m going to make an assumption (shame on me). Aren’t most of the oil fields owned by the OPEC governments? When they raise their prices, the oil companies pay more. Can someone explain to me how their profits go UP when that happens? Shouldn’t that be the other way around? That doesn’t make sense.
Here’s your answer… the oil company can and did buy futures (a locked in price on a barrel of crude that is in storage, years ago when the prices were lower.) just like anyone can.many people get very rich just buying and selling the options on those contracts. the bottom line is that many of those contracts are nearly up and the big oil companies will need to buy oil and at more current prices with some of that cash they are hoarding, then you should see some real increases in prices.
Comment by greg — May 19, 2008 @ 8:56 am
UUHHH … OK?
I have to admit I didn’t know that. Hey I’m a stool pigeon, not a financial guru. Even deadbeats like me can learn something.
But that doesn’t make the price of gas easier to take. And it’s reassuring to know what we have to look forward to (he said sarcastically).
Thanks Greg for clearing that up.
Comment by thestoolie — May 20, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
If you think about this, it is a pyramid scam. What they are doing, is allowing other people to buy into this by selling the ebook and the actual kits. After they buy in and find out it is a joke, they go around blogging about how good it is, to increase their sales also, and they are getting other people to buy in, and the cycle continues.
This dude Ozzie freedom has made over $220,000 off of this scam so far, and I think it is horrible that people are getting ripped off, in their time of need. This is the brown’s gas scam all over again, and I intend to do my part to stop it. People need a real solution, not scams.
Some people may actually get better fuel efficiency once they utilize the ideas in this book, but that is only because they are reducing the amount of power their car produces by, retarding their timing, changing their driving habits, and performing routine maintenance: stuff we already know. Instead of going through all of the elaborate setup, they can save the same amount by changing theses things without the HHO cell. The bubbling mason jar is the smoke and mirrors that is taking their attention away from the point that they have been tricked.
Science stuff: This reaction occurs by pulling power from the alternator, which is not free. When the alternator is loaded more, more current is pushed onto the stator in the alternator, which causes more torque to turn the rotor in the alternator, which robs your engine directly of output power, and since the electrolysis takes more energy to produce, then it puts out, the net gain is zero at best. So not only are you dealing with a motor that is around 20% efficient in converting the chemical energy in gas, now you have added a system that is even less efficient into the loop also. The same result can be had by simply lifting your foot off of the gas pedal a little. Nobody has dynoed a car with this system on it, and I am sure they will have less horsepower. It’s all a trick, not to mention it can damage your motor. Did you see in the ebook where Ozzie said baking soda residue will build up in the tubes, and they have to be cleaned periodically? The cleaning method is to take the hoses off, squirt water in it and blow all of the residue out with your mouth. Think about the residue that enters your engine. I’d like to take apart an engine after running this system for a while.
We don’t have that much longer to really help people, before this energy problem gets really out of hand. I just want to help people, and people like Ozzie are going to make it hard to get new technology out there. Ozzie may have good intentions, but this technology is not new, and is fatally flawed. I think Stan Meyer was on the right path with high voltage high frequency electrolysis. That is what I am experimenting with right now. Let’s all put our heads together and come up with some real solutions. Oh by the way, if you still want the ebooks, you can buy the ebooks and an actual HHO cell from this guy bentpalmtree on eBay for $47. Don’t get ripped off by paying $100. I wish all of you the best, and know that a solution will come, but this is not it.
Comment by fueltech — May 25, 2008 @ 3:23 pm
If you come across anybody who is trying to boast about this technology this is how you should reply:
First ask them-
First let’s get the disclosure out of the way…Are you a seller of this product or anyway affiliated with the this product or Ozzie?
If they try to claim it is not a pyramid scheme tell them-
“A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme…” The pyramid scheme can be used in conjunction with false or misleading technology, as it is used now. The enrollment is buying the ebook, and the scheme is to get other people to buy an ebook based on worthless technology. Meanwhile Ozzie makes a cut out of everything. That’s why Ozzie will not actually sell the product, he is only selling false information. The reason this scheme will be busted, is because it is not sustainable. Eventually the people who buy into this will start to speak out instead of trying to rip off their fellow man.
If they try to argue you on the science use my previous statements then say-
I noticed you did not comment on any of the science behind the argument of why this system cannot work well. What about the baking soda in the tubes, as per the ebook? Actually I have bought the ebook, and a kit, as well as making my own. All signs point to scam. I was very disappointed in this product. I am using charge cards for gas and food right now, just to get by, and felt this system might help me get by, but instead my hope, was really false hope:(
Ozzie may be a really good guy, but he is truly is misinformed. I watched a video where he told somebody to stick this unit in front of his turbo. You know what will happen if the guy does that…KABOOM. The heat from the turbo WILL ignite the small amount of hydrogen gas that is introduced to it. Every mechanic knows that introducing any type of fuel before a turbo is truly an idiotic thing to do.
http://www.usafastway.com/WATER4GAS/?p=182
I am not trying to slam this man for trying, but please don’t fall for the hype. It is all smoke and mirrors. I am an engineering student, and have tested this setup. I am sorry to say, it was really disappointing. I don’t want anybody to be discouraged by new technology, but this system is not new, novel, or practical.
I love the spirit of inventing, but the IEEE code of ethics clearly states not to boast claims that cannot be backed up, and Ozzie is doing this right now.
Let’s all keep up the good fight for REAL technology.
Comment by fueltech — May 25, 2008 @ 6:26 pm
Yes, it’s a giant scam involving thousands of affiliates who are all paid to lie about the viability of the HHO system. Virtually *non* of the affiliates even have an HHO system installed in their cars, yet they tell people they do and that they’re saving a fortune in fuel costs.
Why?
Money of course.
I’ve written a full expose’ of this scam on my website at http://aardvark.co.nz/hho.shtml
Spread the word and save friends or family from being sucked in by these fraudsters.
The laws of thermodynamics remain unbroken — as are the claims of PT Barnum I’m afraid.
Comment by Bruce — June 23, 2008 @ 12:24 am
water4gas review…
Very informative. Keep them coming….
Trackback by water4gas review — June 23, 2008 @ 11:01 pm
Wow…What a great topic!
Comment by car for gas man — July 17, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
sure looks like a scam to me
http://consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/07/water4gas.html
wish it wasnt cause the oil companys are gettin to &%^$% rich!!
Comment by Jodie — July 19, 2008 @ 4:00 pm
i really like this topic!.. i’ve learned a lot
Comment by franklin — July 27, 2008 @ 12:32 am
You’ve learned a lot, huh? Like how to spam other peoples blogs to promote your own affiliate link?
How low can you go? People like you make the people at Water4Gas look like Mother Theresa, scam or not.
Comment by thestoolie — July 27, 2008 @ 11:40 am
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4271579.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4276846.html?series=19
It’s really a shame that he even needed to do this… conspiracy theorists should realize that if it actually worked you wouldn’t read about it on blogs and waterrulz.net… you’d see it in dealer showrooms.
Comment by Eric — August 8, 2008 @ 3:47 am
I grow weary of closed minded experts we have to be open to all options no matter hwo unlikely our energy solutions my come from a small r&d company or even out of someones garage.
Comment by jimma — September 18, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
hi,there
i hope this site may be help many people…..Has anyone tried another water for gas kit?
i think many people don’t have to try something to understand that it works.
I’ve seen facts on the news and all over the Internet, that running a car on water IS possible. Even that I haven’t tried doing it, it doesn’t mean that it’s impossible.
this is not spam but i want many people to see other choice.Has anyone tried the kit? like water4gas,runyourcaronwater etc.
Is it really a scam? if you don’t satisfy you can asked for refund..no more pain
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Comment by carwaterguide — September 18, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
I grow weary of big business, closed minded experts. We have to be open to all options no matter how unlikely. Our best energy solutions are likely to come from small r&d companies or even out of someone’s garage workshop.
Comment by jimma — September 18, 2008 @ 3:17 pm